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In 1997, Les and Scott GrantSmith’s marriage was on the rocks. They had been together for 10 years and were raising two children. But Les was hiding something. Les was born female but felt like a man in the wrong body. Les is transgender.
One night in 1995, 7-year-old Phil Donney and his 4-year-old sister, Laura, heard their parents arguing. That fight ended when their father murdered their mother. Phil and Laura went to live with their mom’s sisters, Abby Leibman and Marjorie Shaw. They all lived together in a two bedroom condo, and began rebuilding their family.